OLP - Já era

Quem não adquiriu ainda o "filho bastardo" do Music Man Sting Ray não terá mais chances de ter um Original Licensed Product na mão. A OLP anunciou que se retirará do mercado a partir de 2009.
http://www.olpguitars.com/
Uma pena, eu gostava dos instrumentos deles, especialmente pelo preço, meu amigo tem um OLP Tony Levin Signature com um pre da Aguilar e caps Seymour que não fica devendo nada pros Sting Rays originais.

Cara eu toquei num OLP e não gostei nem um pouco... Mas é claro que tudo depende de uma série de fatores (regulagem, cordas, etc...). Então, só por esta experiência insatisfatória te digo que, pelo menso pra mim, ele não vai fazer falta. ABÇ.

Tambem nao gosto muito dos OLP, q eram fabricados na Asia sob licenca da Ernie Ball...
O MusicMan SUB sim, sao feitos na mesma fabrica q qqer outro MusicMan e sao baixos muito bons pelo preco...

Um SUB aqui tá uns 4500!!!! No uruguai são 900 dolares!!!

Confesso que os baixos nunca me agradaram muito. However, as guitarras OLP são du karaio!!! Ainda quero comprar uma dessa abaixo:

Ivanov_br escreveu:Um SUB aqui tá uns 4500!!!! No uruguai são 900 dolares!!!

Caramba... Aqui jah vi SUB usado de 200 dolares. Qto eh um MusicMan no Brasil, entao?

10 mil pratas

jiroumaru escreveu:10 mil pratas

Ueh... E qdo eu coloquei um Fodera aqui nos Classificados por 16 mil o povo achou q eu tava brincando.

Porque ninguém em sã consciência vai comprar um Fodera em reais, 16mil reais dá o que, 7500 dólares, qualquer músico que tiver essa grana com certeza tem como ir pros EUA e comprar um Fodera por um preço "justo".

A media de preco deve dar uns 8000.... Um fodera deveria custar entao no minimo uns 32000 hehe

Seguindo esse raciocínio não vale a pena pagar quase nenhum instrumento em reais, pelo menos os mais caros.

Stefano T. escreveu:Porque ninguém em sã consciência vai comprar um Fodera em reais, 16mil reais dá o que, 7500 dólares, qualquer músico que tiver essa grana com certeza tem como ir pros EUA e comprar um Fodera por um preço "justo".

Na verdade, U$7100... Acho engracada essa nocao de que aqui nos EUA tem Fodera nas lojas... Um Fodera desse q eu anunciei aqui custa 9000 dolares e demora 3 anos pra ser entregue. Engracado eh o pessoal daih achar normal um MusicMan q aqui vc acha ateh de 700 dolares custar 10000 Reais, mas um Fodera q aqui custa 7000 dolares ser vendido aih por 16000 Reais aih eh considerado um absurdo... Vai entender...

Vamos fazer uma conta bem bestinha. Um musicman que custa 1700 dolares novo custa 8000 aqui... um Fodera que custa 9000 custaria 42000 aqui heheh... besteirinha hein?

Fazendo de uma forma que fosse a mais barata pro cara trazer de la vamos fazer uma outra continha:
Digamos q de passagens ida e volta eu gastaria uns 4000 reais...
Digamos que eu comprasse um fodera dos mais baratos usados la na basscentral, tem um la por 5999 dolares. Entao na Alfandega aqui eu gastaria 2750 dolares so de imposto, contando q estou trazendo como bagagem acmpanhada.

Totalizando so o baixo daria 8750 dolares com imposto, que daria 20000 reais + 4000 de passagens so ai daria 24000 reais. Sem falar em despesas la na cidade com comida, hospedagem e transporte.

Entao 16000 nao da nem p comecar....

Cid escreveu:Entao 16000 nao da nem p comecar....

Pois eh, mas mesmo assim eu tive q tirar o anuncio pela quantidade de piadas... E fiz na hora certa, antes de alguem propor troca num canario cantador ou numa kombi '79...

Outra coisa, o q tah na Bass Central eh parafusado, no minimo 2 mil dolares mais barato. O q eu tava vendendo tinha um top de buckeye q vc nao ve todo dia... Aqui oh:

E eu to pedindo 12000 no meu Ken Smith, to pedindo eh pouco.

Alex Covardia mostrar essa foto.

Cid escreveu:Alex Covardia mostrar essa foto.

Gostou? C acha q dah pra trocar num som CCE mais uma potencia Micrologic entao?

C lembra qdo eu anunciei ele aqui neh? As perguntas jah tavam assim: "Ele faz cafe tambem? Eh feito de diamante?"

VC ja vendeu esse ai ou desistiu?

Cid escreveu:VC ja vendeu esse ai ou desistiu?

Esse baixo eh do Jorge, eu anuncio pra ele pq ele eh preguicoso...
Tah no Talkbass agora, muita gente interessada, mas ninguem puxou o gatilho ainda...

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=503015

Se vc tiver algum interesse, fale comigo ou diretamente com ele...

allexcosta escreveu:

Cid escreveu:VC ja vendeu esse ai ou desistiu?

Esse baixo eh do Jorge, eu anuncio pra ele pq ele eh preguicoso...
Tah no Talkbass agora, muita gente interessada, mas ninguem puxou o gatilho ainda...

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=503015

Se vc tiver algum interesse, fale comigo ou diretamente com ele...

É o das chuquinhas... falando nisso, nem pra vocês me darem essas chucas;

No mercadolivre já viraria Chuquinha Vintage tirada de Fodera; deve valer uma grana

Galdino escreveu:É o das chuquinhas... falando nisso, nem pra vocês me darem essas chucas;

Lamento informar q a Camila ficou com as xuxas pra ela...

Pra quem tava achando 16 mil num fodera absurdo:


http://www.musicalgrellmann.com.br/loja/produto-54103-6451-contra_baixo_fodera_emperor_5_cordas_ativo

23 mil!!!

Se vc pagar no boleto tu ganha um desconto de 4 mil pratas!!!

jiroumaru escreveu:23 mil!!!

E cah pra nos, nem se compara com o do Jorge, alem do top super-ultra raro, o dele tem captacao dupla com covers da mesma madeira do top... No minimo 1000 dolares mais caro na fabrica.

Allex, se vc ver mais um SUB desse de 200 dolares me avisa que eu vou comprar uahuahuaha

Allex, quanto custa mais ou menos o frete (envio) de um baixo dos EUA aqui para o Brasil?
Por que é de coçar a cabeça e esvaziar os bolsos quando vc comenta os preços dos intrumentos ai na Flórida.

Abraços.

takaaci escreveu:Allex, quanto custa mais ou menos o frete (envio) de um baixo dos EUA aqui para o Brasil?
Por que é de coçar a cabeça e esvaziar os bolsos quando vc comenta os preços dos intrumentos ai na Flórida.

Abraços.

Uns $200 mais seguro. O frete eh barato comparado com os 60% de taxa de importacao.

essa taxa que quebra as pernas. o negócio é pedir pra alguém trazer como equipo pessoal mesmo!

Eu tenho um camarada que está no Canadá e está voltando daqui uns 3 meses.
Vc já foi pra lá Allex, conhece alguma boa loja de instrumentos por lá?
Quem sabe eu não faço uma loucura??

takaaci escreveu:Eu tenho um camarada que está no Canadá e está voltando daqui uns 3 meses.
Vc já foi pra lá Allex, conhece alguma boa loja de instrumentos por lá?
Quem sabe eu não faço uma loucura??

Depende da cidade neh...
Nao conheco o Canada...
Sei q tem uma loja famosa lah chamada Axe Music (foi fundada pelo Luis Caldas, Sarajane e Chiclete Com Banana )

Dah uma olhada no link:

http://www.axemusic.com/

As vezes vale a pena pagar o frete pra entrega na casa do teu amigo no canada. Ai ele nao precisa sair atrás de loja

allexcosta escreveu:

takaaci escreveu:Eu tenho um camarada que está no Canadá e está voltando daqui uns 3 meses.
Vc já foi pra lá Allex, conhece alguma boa loja de instrumentos por lá?
Quem sabe eu não faço uma loucura??

Depende da cidade neh...
Nao conheco o Canada...
Sei q tem uma loja famosa lah chamada Axe Music (foi fundada pelo Luis Caldas, Sarajane e Chiclete Com Banana )

Dah uma olhada no link:

http://www.axemusic.com/

Luis Caldas e Sarajane

Nunca mais tinha ouvido falar deles...

Estranho Mr Allex, não achei nenhuma citação sobre eles nã história da empresa:


The Axe Music Story

“It was 20 years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play”

Well ok, not really, that’s just a great song lyric… but it was 25 years ago today that Brian Holowaychuk, a carpenter framing houses in a very competitive marketplace, decided to make a living manufacturing speakers for all the “would be” Sergeant Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Bands’ in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.

Recalling his decision to go into the music business, “As a drummer, I was interested in music… as a carpenter, I was already building my own PA boxes.” Holowaychuk had noticed that most speakers were built in Vancouver or the U.S. at that time, and felt that a local builder would have an edge up on the competition; so manufacturing speaker cabinets is how he started his business. Today he is the President of Axe Music, Light, Sound, & Video, one of Canada’s largest and most comprehensive Audio/Video chains.

Starting out in a dirt floor garage just outside Edmonton, Holowaychuk figured if he could manufacture locally, he would have an instant market, if for nothing more than the considerable freight savings this afforded local retailers. Much to his dismay, he soon found he had a product, but no purchasers. Despite the excellent quality, and great local pricing, he discovered retailers were reluctant to chance on a new supplier, preferring to stick with vendors with whom they already had established relationships.

Finally, when one local store agreed to take his PA speakers in exchange for some of their products, he promptly set about hawking his newly acquired wares to local bands in bars and clubs, raising enough money for more supplies, and a few hot dogs and some Kraft Dinner along the way. "That’s how I got started in retail,” says Holowaychuk. “Because we were brand new and every sale was important, we were very attentive to our customers’ wants, needs and desires; an attitude we’ve carried through the company for over 25 years now!”

So hot dogs and Kraft Dinner not withstanding, Axe Music officially launched in the spring of 1980, with Brian’s brother Darrell, company Vice President, joining the fold. The brothers turned the garage into a retail outlet, starting with a huge inventory of “six guitars on the wall," Brian recalls, “and a wood-burning stove for heat, because we couldn’t afford a furnace.” They worked tirelessly to establish themselves in the Edmonton marketplace; excepting those ½ hour lunch breaks for some hot dogs and Kraft Dinner, and watching The Flinstones.

Soon the City of Edmonton came calling, insisting that AXE MUSIC relocate to a proper retail outlet, and so they packed up everything they had… lock, stock and barrel, and took up residency in their current location, just one block north east of Edmonton’s then Coliseum, now Rexall Place, home of the Edmonton Oilers.

A little anxious at first about being able to afford the overhead, Brian need not have worried very much, as AXE grew from its original 2,000 square foot space, quickly taking over the entire building within the next 10 years. Finally, when the landlord approached the brothers with an offer to sell the building, they took immediate AXEvantage of the opportunity, and have since added a second floor, and renovated the entire building, making it one of the absolute flagship Music Retail Operations in Western Canada. "We now do more business in less than a month than we did in our first three years combined," Holowaychuk says, and “we’re proud to have customers in all walks of life, and in all corners of Canada.”

In the early 90s, Axe Music opened a second store in Calgary, which now parallels the success of its 25 year old predecessor, making great strides to become the dominant force in it’s territory, that it’s sister store is in Edmonton.

In terms of product, Axe Music offers a more diversified selection than anyone else in the industry. "We have competitors in various singular sectors, but no single competitor with our overall depth,” Holowaychuk says. "We bring more products to market than any other competitor. In audio alone, we offer more selection than our two closest competitors put together.” With more than $1,000,000 of inventory in each store at any given time, Axe Music is among the largest accounts for audio vendors Electrovoice, JBL, Behringer, and Peavey. The stores also boast one of the largest selections of guitars in all of Canada, stocking a full range of Fender, ESP, Peavey, Ibanez, Paul Reed Smith, Seagull, Dean, Dingwall and many more Fine Instruments. Drums, ranging from African percussion to standard acoustic drum kits, and from sure vendors as Tama, Mapex, Ayotte, Pork Pie, Roland Electronics and more, grace the confines of their Drum Rooms. Keyboards from Alesis, M Audio, Roland, Kurzweil and Korg line the walls of their Technology Room along with all the latest DJ equipment from Stanton, Denon, Pioneer, Rane, and Numark, to name just a few of the many brands they carry.

"We are industry leaders. We were the first in the market to introduce digital recording equipment to Western Canada," Holowaychuk points out as just one example. "Equipment from Steinberg, Mackie, Roland, Event and Behringer”, along with many other great companies, all got great starts in the marketplace via AXE Music’s amazing marketing penetration!

“Visiting an Axe Music store, you will immediately be struck by the sheer size of the operation, pushing 14,000 sq. ft. in both cities. A large open area greets you when you first walk in, and a receptionist and large sales counter peppered with computer terminals set-up to handle the stores’ high volume are prominent. “A simple AXE philosophy fostered long ago, promotes a real hands-on approach in our stores," Holowaychuk says. "We encourage customers to try out the instruments and see how they sound and feel. Anyone can go into our drum room, pick up a pair of sticks, and play to their heart’s content. That’s the way WE believe it should be.”

In addition to the great retail trade AXE is enjoying in its 25th year, the Commercial Installation Division of the store is actively involved in equipping some of the most prominent buildings in Edmonton and Calgary with their Audio and Video requirements. "We started doing commercial work very early on," Darrell Holowaychuk notes. "The commercial side represents a multi-million dollar part of our business, with our teams installing lighting and audio-visual equipment everywhere it is required!”

Axe Music’s commercial clients have included schools, churches, hospitals, airports, racetracks, nightclubs, government conferencing systems, and a large number of hockey rinks in western Canada. "We have done more hockey arenas than all of our competition put together," Darrell Holowaychuk states! Axe is proud to list the Edmonton Oilers as just one of their major corporate accounts, having engineered and installed the entire Audio System, the entire Score Clock system, and the revolutionary Ribbon L.E.D. System in Rexall Place in Edmonton, home of the Oilers. “Axe Music’s lighting and video arms developed out of its initial core audio business”, Darrell further explains, and "audio, video and lighting go together like toast, butter and jam. Commercial clients from all walks of business life need Audio and Video elements on a daily basis,” expands Holowaychuk, “and while some lighting systems are as simple as sticking a bulb in a socket, others are much more complex, requiring a very artistic flair. It can be like working with paints and a paint brush, and Axe has the people to bring it all together."

In the last five years Axe Music partnered with Angel Audio in developing AXE PRODUCTIONS, quickly becoming the forefront entertainment provider in the Alberta region. Axe Productions provides TOTAL Production for all events; staging, sound, lights, movie, projector, and cameras. They do all of our own set up and tear down, insuring you a hassle free, and very professional event. Their innovation and constant upgrading keeps them way ahead of any competition in the area, and insures you are never let down with the presentation of your event. Combining the latest equipment with unbelievable service, makes AXE Productions the only choice for your events!

Axe Music has also been a leader in the use of computer technology to improve business efficiencies, and was one of the first companies in Canada to introduce a computerized Point of Sales (POS) System. "We bought our first mini-computer back when people were just starting to talk about linking PCs to form a network," Brian Holowaychuk says. “The whole company is filled with tech heads. We have computers in every room with the latest software, and with close to $2,000,000 invested into its computer system over the last fifteen years, it is safe to say that AXE feels information is the key to success in managing a business in this day and age. "Wal-Mart dominates its field because its information system is second to none,” says Holowaychuk, “and we prescribe to that philosophy in a big way!” Because of our efficiencies, we price products aggressively, in fact guaranteeing the lowest prices in our marketplace. Our computer system is instrumental in helping us run an organization this size efficiently without the need for excess staff, and that keeps prices down."

Speaking of staff, Axe Music is now called a home away from home by a combines staff of close to100. “Our staff,” Holowaychuk says, “come from all varieties of life, and all types of musical backgrounds. "We put a lot of attention into hiring," states Holowaychuk. "You cannot build a great company without great people, and our staff are the best in their fields, and an integral element of Axe’s success. We make sure we hire the best!”

Over the past three years, Axe Music has also been perfecting its website www.axemusic.com to increase its AXEtensive reach into Canada. “As an information tool, the Internets capabilities are unmatched," says Holowaychuk, “and our initial results indicate that it’s a pretty strong virtual retail medium as well.”

And AXE believes in giving back! Every year AXE Music counts the City of Edmonton, The Edmonton Police Service, and the City of Calgary as just a few of our civic partners, with whom we align to present community events designed at helping foster the Creative Arts culture within Alberta. AXEtremefest, Molson’s Rock Search, Axetreme Stripdown, the St. Alphonsus Discover Music program, Calgary’s Youth Week, Loud Lunch, and the Children’s Wish Foundation, are just a few of the many initiatives driven by AXE Music annually, as our simple way of saying thanks to the community for supporting us for the last 25 years. AXE cares!

Looking ahead, the Holowaychuk Brothers' goal is to make Axe Music the strongest Music and Commercial Retailer in all of Canada. "Operating a retail chain presents different challenges at different times,” Holowaychuk notes. "There was a time early on," he recalls, "when we ran into a cash flow crunch. We had to borrow money from the bank and have our dad co-sign for the loan. I didn’t sleep well for three months until we paid the loan off, being so riddled with the possibility of our father possibly being held accountable for the success or failure of our organization. I learned the importance of running a tight financial ship, and as such, we’ve always made sure our bills are paid promptly, and that we perform professionally in all aspects of our business lives. This goes far in developing the relationships with our suppliers, relationships crucial to our continued longevity and success with our customers!

Something tells me that Papa Holowaychuk doesn’t have to co-sign too many loans these days for his sons’ business, but rather just sits back and enjoys the continued success they have amassed in the last 25years.

As Mike Myer’s character, Wayne Campbell of Wayne’s World fame would say…
Party on Brian and Darrell… AXEcellent!!!
- Axe Music Main Page -

Taken from: http://www.axemusic.com/axemusic_story.asp

Ivanov_br escreveu:Estranho Mr Allex, não achei nenhuma citação sobre eles nã história da empresa:

Caramba, aih copia viu...
Deixa eu explicar:

Luis Caldas em frances eh "Brian".
Sarajane em frances eh "Darrell".
Chiclete com Banana eh o nome da banda q eles tinham antes de fundar a loja: "L'Chicleté avec l'banané"

Deu pra entender agora? Nossa, eu sempre tenho q explicar tudo...

Ah...ok... pensei que fosse Organização para Libertação da Palestina.

allexcosta escreveu:

Ivanov_br escreveu:Estranho Mr Allex, não achei nenhuma citação sobre eles nã história da empresa:

Caramba, aih copia viu...
Deixa eu explicar:

Luis Caldas em frances eh "Brian".
Sarajane em frances eh "Darrell".
Chiclete com Banana eh o nome da banda q eles tinham antes de fundar a loja: "L'Chicleté avec l'banané"

Deu pra entender agora? Nossa, eu sempre tenho q explicar tudo...

Agora entendi. Será que no Canadá ele dava outro nome pra canção Tieta?!?! Talvez virou Jane:

- Jane wasn't created from Adam's rib .....

Ivanov_br escreveu:Agora entendi. Será que no Canadá ele dava outro nome pra canção Tieta?!?! Talvez virou Jane:

- Jane wasn't created from Adam's rib .....

Nao, eles sempre preferiram o frances:

Jeanne N'a pas été créé à le costelette de Adanette...